Weird Comparisons 

"CaptDale - is secretly British" (captdale) 11/15/2016 at 16:15 • Filed to: compare, ct6, model s, panamera

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Talking to my boss about the new CT6 Plug In cause we sell Cadillacs and how the car better be just as good as a Tesla Model S cause that will be its rival. I mean at least it will look better.

I mean, the Tesla isn’t ugly, but it has nothing going for it. It’s plain and verging on boring if it had a gas motor I believe it’d be a flop. The Cadillac is gorgeous on the other hand. Especially from the rear.

Huh.... looks a lot like

I think I’d rather have a Panamera than the Model S, but the CT6 over the other two

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:19

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See you’re wrong

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:20

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Well. You’re wrong. Panamera=Tesla>CT6

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 11/15/2016 at 16:24

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Unless that Panamera is a Turbo. Then Panamaera>everything with 4 doors

OPPOsaurus WRX > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 11/15/2016 at 16:24

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this is the answer right here. Cadillac has done better.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:25

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Having driven both, I can safely say that the Tesla is in another league in terms of ability and tech, but I’d rather have the CT6. It’s just cooler.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/15/2016 at 16:26

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See I think the only time Cadillac did better is until the ‘60s though. Kind of garbage ever since early 70s.

Mercedes Streeter > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:27

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Current/previous gen Cadillacs have the uncanny ability to look gorgeous in pictures, but look way out of proportions in the flesh. It is thus that my favourite GM brand remains Opel/Buick...and well Saturn if they still existed.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 11/15/2016 at 16:29

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But I am not

CaptDale - is secretly British > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 11/15/2016 at 16:31

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You are wrong because Rapide

wiffleballtony > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:32

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All it needs is to not break down all the time.

wiffleballtony > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 11/15/2016 at 16:33

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How is the tow truck experience?

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:33

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Touché.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Mercedes Streeter 11/15/2016 at 16:35

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Weird, I love the Cadillacs in person. Walking by them everyday I can’t help but lust after them. Especially the ATS. I think they are some of the best* styling to come out of GM since the Pontiac/Holden vehicles stopped.

*Reference for fact that Cadillac is perfect (ATS-V Coupe)

OPPOsaurus WRX > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 11/15/2016 at 16:42

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i think the new Escalade is a really good looking vehicle.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 16:46

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I think it’s a trim level thing, small “base” wheels can really throw the look off as can various other base trim pieces.

I loved the 2nd gen CTS-V but the base CTS was goofy looking, especially because the base grille.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/15/2016 at 16:50

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Okay I agree on that. The GMT900 and newer are nice but I don’t want to give Cadillac credit for it because it’s just a dressed up GMC/Chevy. Also as a personal SUV I’d rather have a Land Cruiser/LX570/Range Rover/Luxury Truck. I will admit the Escalade is my favorite vehicle to see pull up when I call an UBER though.

Mercedes Streeter > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 17:28

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Well now, that’s just pure sex!

I’ll uh...I’ll be in my bunk.

Seriously though, I think Bman may be on to something. Maybe base wheels throw the look off for me?

CaptDale - is secretly British > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 11/15/2016 at 17:36

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Yeah a little wider, deeper dished, and larger diameter wheel would make this car spot on.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Mercedes Streeter 11/15/2016 at 17:44

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Yeah speced out the way I want, the ATS-V Coupe would cost $80K+

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Mercedes Streeter 11/15/2016 at 17:48

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It’s always bothered me that they clearly design cars with a certain size wheel in mind then downgrade for base models, which are what they sell the most of.

e36Jeff now drives a ZHP > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 17:49

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I don’t think the CT6 looks better at all. In fact I don’t think any of the art & science designed Caddys look good, although I do recognize that it is an unpopular opinion and at the same time freely admit they look better than the prior design language.

CaptDale - is secretly British > e36Jeff now drives a ZHP 11/15/2016 at 17:57

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We are all entitled to our wrong opinions.

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > Mercedes Streeter 11/15/2016 at 17:58

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I haven’t had the chance to see a CT6 in person, but I think most Cadillacs look good irl. Except the CTS. The CTS is ugly.

IanZ - limited-slip indifferential > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 18:05

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I agree, but I think the CT6 needs bigger rear wheels.

CaptDale - is secretly British > IanZ - limited-slip indifferential 11/15/2016 at 18:11

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100% AGREE

CompactLuxuryFan > IanZ - limited-slip indifferential 11/15/2016 at 18:30

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I don’t get how the rear ones look smaller than the fronts. Is that picture photoshopped? Something has to be very wrong with the design to create that illusion. Looks terrible!

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > wiffleballtony 11/15/2016 at 18:31

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For which one? Neither seems unreliable.

Frenchlicker > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 18:44

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My problem with the CT6 is that it seems the design team took an outline of a Merceds and an outline of and old Cadillac and went to town with a blending pencil. They have made it dull. Also, I would take a Panamera any day over the other two.

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 18:55

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I cannot tell you how badly I want a CT6. The’re gawjeous!

CaptDale - is secretly British > shop-teacher 11/15/2016 at 19:13

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Too much $$ cause ATS-V

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 19:21

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Totally different vehicle for a totally different purpose. I’d love to have one of each. Of course that would cost about as much as my house.

CaptDale - is secretly British > shop-teacher 11/15/2016 at 19:26

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Ehhh..... ATS-V is just as luxurious as the CT6, but better for track days too.

wiffleballtony > sm70- why not Duesenberg? 11/15/2016 at 19:31

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I was referring to the Tesla.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cars/tesla-reliability-doesnt-match-its-high-performance/

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/15/2016 at 19:51

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The interior may be as nice, but the size makes the CT6 a lot more comfy for long trips.

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 11/16/2016 at 07:52

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I liked you until today. Bye Felicia.

/s

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 07:56

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Tesla fanboys be rabid.

In all seriousness, as of late, I’ve kind of realized that Tesla’s design language isn’t all that people claim it is. It’s starting to become...boring. Especially on the Model 3 and the Model X. Am I the only one that thing the fake piano black grille actually helped the look? I saw a facelifted Model S recently (the one without the grille) and...yeah...it’s terrible.

Cadillac hit the CT6 out of the mofuckin’ park in terms of design and class. It looks straight up opulent at a standstill, and cruises down streets with a sense of presence that I’ve only ever gotten before with old Jaguar XJs. You know, that feeling that when it’s coming the opposite direction, you feel like you have to dip off the road and pay respects? That’s my identifier of a good luxury car, and Cadillac has had that since the CTS.

The Panamera on the other hand is also gorgeous, and I wouldn’t mind having one. It’d be a toss-up, the CT6 is better value for money, but the Panamera is a Panamera.

RT > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 10:07

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I’ll take the Panamera then.

Or Quattroporte or Rapide, either will do.

Vítor > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 11/16/2016 at 10:54

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I think from a design standpoint you can do much better than the current XF, it may not be as beautiful as a Rapide, but it’s ridiculous handsome in a BMW E38 way.

Also from a side view the new Panamera looks ungainly and fat, I would wait for the wagon version to fix that look

CaptDale - is secretly British > RT 11/16/2016 at 11:36

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Rapide = bests 4 door

CaptDale - is secretly British > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 11/16/2016 at 11:38

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I totally agree. If I want to cruise in style I’d take the CT6. If I wanted to blast down the Autobahn with my kids Panamera Turbo

CaptDale - is secretly British > shop-teacher 11/16/2016 at 11:39

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Hmmm, maybe. I think my GTO has the perfect long trip interior size, so I may enjoy the ATS more. I prefer the small dimensions.

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 11:46

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I have kids, so that changes everything. Plus I’m a big dude.

I did find my GTO very comfortable, although the seat bottom was a bit too short.

CaptDale - is secretly British > shop-teacher 11/16/2016 at 11:56

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Ah yes, damn kids ;).

Hm, really? I think they are the most comfortable seats in any car I have ever sat in.

SkyNet > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 12:42

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It’s not. CT6 is more luxurious.

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 13:20

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Yeah, they complicate things a lot :)

Other than the length of the seat bottom, I found them quite comfortable. On long drives my lower thighs, right above my knees, would get fatigued.

CaptDale - is secretly British > shop-teacher 11/16/2016 at 13:44

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Ok, huh

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 14:10

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I recall that being a pretty common complaint on the GTO forum, but it’s been about a decade since I visited that site.

CaptDale - is secretly British > shop-teacher 11/16/2016 at 14:23

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Hmm, I don’t remember seeing that. I wonder if it was more a problem when the seats were new and more stiff? Mine is stiff, but my legs don’t hurt unless I have been driving for a very long time.

shop-teacher > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 15:27

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Possimaybe?

therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now) > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 16:00

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That’s $89,415 dollars more than I have

CaptDale - is secretly British > therevengeofthesaab (really likes pre-2005 hondas right now) 11/16/2016 at 17:41

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I can save you $9k

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/16/2016 at 20:28

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I would take an RS7 over the three you mentioned.

Also this seems to be an unpopular opinion, but other than the ATS-V coupe, I’m really not digging Caddy’s new design — excuse me: “design language.”

L00KE > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 11/17/2016 at 01:51

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All three cars look kinda bad and uninspired.

CaptDale - is secretly British > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/17/2016 at 11:17

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That is a very pretty car.

I like the designs for the cars, but the SRX(or whatever the new one is) is still terrible and the Escalade will always look like a fancy Yukon which is meh.